sameadj.pron.adv.
/seɪm/, U.S. /seɪm/ The ordinary adjectival and pronominal designation of identity, equivalent to the older ilk adj.1, pron.1, and n., to Latin idem, Greek ὁ αὐτός, German derselbe. Normally preceded by the, exc. after a demonstrative; the omission of the article occurs only in dialectal or informal speech and in certain specially elliptical varieties of diction (e.g. in commercial correspondence). As the prefixed article is functionally a part of the word, it is often difficult to distinguish the simple predicative use (= ‘identical’) from the absolute and elliptical uses.
A. adj.
I. Not numerically different from an object indicated or implied; identical.
1. With forward reference: Identical with what is indicated in the following context.It is remarkable that this use is all but entirely absent from the writings of Shakespeare; the only clear instance appears to be quot. 1602 at sense A. 4 below.† c. In the 16–17th centuries often followed by that with ellipsis of the verb, so that the same that becomes equivalent to ‘the same as’ or ‘the same with’. Obsolete.† f. In certain rare constructions: (a) const. of (perhaps a Gallicism); (b) const. to. Obsolete.
a. Followed by a clause with relative pronoun (that, who, which) or relative adverb (when, where). Cf. very adj.In this construction that sometimes has not the strict pronominal syntax, but is equivalent in meaning to ‘in (on, by, etc.) which’, ‘where’, ‘when’. Cf. the similar use of French que.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > with what is indicated in the following context
samec1175
c1175 Ormulum (Burchfield transcript) l. 9914 He mihhte makenn cwike menn. Þær off þa same staness. Þatt stodenn þær bi sannt iohan.
1340 R. Rolle Pricke of Conscience 4511 Þan sal Iewes þe sam lawe halde, Þat þai haf.
1340 R. Rolle Pricke of Conscience 5288 Þis taken..sal noght be Þe sam cros, ne þe sam tre, On whilk God was nayled fot and hande.
a1500 (?a1400) Wars Alexander (Trin. Dublin) 2063 þe some [c1450 Ashm. selfe] sendesman he in þe sale fyndez At fro þe streme of strema was on stedes wysett.
1537 T. Starkey Let. 26 Jan. in Eng. in Reign Henry VIII (1878) i. p. xlvii Euen the same thyng, wych you percas thynke hathe byn the chefe roote of thys motyon.
1631 Earl of Manchester Contemplatio Mortis 89 The old saying is as good, Doe that euery day, which thou wouldest doe the same day that thou dyest.
1707 J. Addison Present State War in Wks. (1766) III. 246 The same causes which straiten the British commerce, will naturally enlarge the French.
1711 E. Budgell Spectator No. 77. ⁋5 At the same time that I am endeavouring to expose this Weakness in others.
a1719 J. Addison Dialogues Medals in Wks. (1721) I. i. 443 He would often shew us the same face on an old Coin that we saw in the Statue.
1809 J. Roland Amateur of Fencing 89 I return to the same situation where I found your blade at the time I began my first motion.
1810 R. Southey Let. 5 Aug. in C. C. Southey Life & Corr. R. Southey (1850) III. 290 As for my contempt of the received rules of poetry, I hold the same rules which Shakspeare, Spencer, and Milton held before me, and desire to be judged by those rules.
1849 T. B. Macaulay Hist. Eng. I. v. 561 Care was taken that the prisoner should pass through the same gate and the same streets through which Montrose had been led to the same doom.
1873 J. Dennis Eng. Sonnets 215 He defends it on the same ground that he would defend the Lycidas of Milton.
1904 Blackwood's Edinb. Mag. Oct. 578/2 They may recite his [Shakspere's] works with the same restraint of gesture..which interpreted his works in his own day.
b. With ellipsis of the relative pronoun or adverb. Also (in careless use) followed by a past participle with ellipsis of relative and copula to be.
ΚΠ
1514 in H. Littlehales Medieval Rec. London City Church (1905) 21 Vppon condicion that they shall kepe solemply, my seid Obett or Annuersary yerely for euermore þe same day of the Moneth my sowle shall depart from þe body, in þe parisshe church of Seint Mary at hill within london.
1702 Clarendon's Hist. Rebellion I. v. 557 The Standard was blown down, the same night it had been set up.
1710 J. Swift Jrnl. to Stella 29 Sept. (1948) I. 34 Why do you trouble yourself, Mistress Stella, about my instrument? I have the same the archbishop gave me; and it is as good now the bishops are away.
1831 W. Scott Count Robert v, in Tales of my Landlord 4th Ser. I. 166 So many princes..aim, it is pretended, at nothing else than the same extravagant purpose announced by the brute multitude who first appeared in these regions.
1855 W. S. Dallas in Orr's Circle Sci.: Org. Nature III. 307 It is regarded with the same interest accorded in Europe to its red-breasted relative.
ΘΚΠ
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > with what is indicated in the following context > same that
same1577
1577 W. Fulke Answer True Christian 64 in Two Treat. against Papistes The Pope chosen by the councell of Constance, was of the same iudgement that the councell.
1582 G. Martin Discov. Corruptions Holy Script. iii. 44 Here he citeth many authors and dictionaries idly, to prooue that idolum may signifie the same that Image.
1601 P. Holland tr. Pliny Hist. World I. 88 The next marches of this higher prouince is the same that the tract of Tarracon.
1601 P. Holland tr. Pliny Hist. World I. 105 The Pisidians..whose chiefe colony is Cæsaria, the same that Antiochia.
1650 J. Trapp Clavis to Bible (Gen. xi. 30) 99 Some say, that Iscah in Chaldee signifieth the same that Sarai in Hebrew.
1652 R. Loveday tr. G. de Costes de La Calprenède Cassandra ii. 132 And having applyed unto them the same things that to my Master's, they laboured to recover him from the sound he was in.
1664 H. More Expos. 7 Epist. (1669) viii. 124 So that I understand by ϕιλαδελϕία the same that ἀγάπη, universal Love.
1671 J. Milton Paradise Regain'd iii. 412 Such was thy zeal To Israel then, the same that now to me. View more context for this quotation
d. Followed by as. Now the commonest construction.Four varieties of use may be noted. (a) As may serve as a relative adverb or pronoun introducing a clause (cf. A. 1a); (b) it may precede the subject or object of a verb omitted by ellipsis; (c) by ellipsis of the copula to be, it may be followed by noun or pronoun denoting that with which identity is stated; (d) it may elliptically precede an adverb or phrase.
ΚΠ
(a)
(b)1691 A. Gavin Frauds Romish Monks 148 We follow'd this Troop of Pilgrims at a small distance, being Mounted in the same manner as they, tho' we could not joyn our selves in company with them.1839 A. Ure Dict. Arts 1086–7 Salt springs occur nearly in the same circumstances..as the salt rock.1881 B. Jowett tr. Thucydides Hist. Peloponnesian War I. 179 The sailors in the fleet all received the same pay as the soldiers.1895 Chitty in Law Times Rep. 72 866/1 Other rules in Order xlv. point in the same direction as the first rule of the order.(c)1715 tr. D. Gregory Elements Astron. I. ii. §59. 351 The ratio of GH to IK, which is the same with the given ratio of the Sines of the arcs AB, CD.1807 J. Robinson Archæol. Græca iii. xxi. 325 Olympia, a city of the Pisæans, or, as some say, the same as Pisa.(d)1662 Bp. E. Hopkins Funeral Serm. (1683) 39 They return again to the same glut of lusts and pleasures as before.1716 J. Addison Freeholder No. 42. ⁋6 We receive the same profit from them, as if they were the Produce of our own Island.a1719 J. Addison Dialogues Medals in Wks. (1721) I. ii. 475 You see the Metaphor is the same in the Verses as in the Medal.1845 M. Pattison in Christian Remembrancer Jan. 82 ‘I again consulted your magnificence, and you gave the same answer as before.’1340 R. Rolle Pricke of Conscience 835 Þan sal he on þe same wys hethen wende..right als he cam Þe first day fra his moder wam.
c1400 Rule St. Benet (Verse) 2371 On þe sam wise sall ilk souerayn Do os þai wil take o-gayn.
1548 Hall's Vnion: Edward IV f. cxcvj He was thesame person and of thesame good mynde towarde the kynge, as he was before the tyme of hys legacion.
1705 J. Addison Remarks Italy 350 The Horse and Man on the Medal are in the same Posture as they are on the Statue.
1827 H. Hallam Constit. Hist. Eng. (1842) II. 257 (note) She was exactly in the same predicament as Philip had been during his marriage with Mary I.
1861 M. Pattison in Westm. Rev. Apr. 410 A patent of Henry II..licenses the sale of Rhenish wine at the same price as French is sold.
1894 A. C. Swinburne Stud. Prose & Poetry 56 Entering college at the same age as Fletcher had entered six years earlier.
e. Const. with. The regimen of with may denote either (a) a participant in the possession, attribute, etc. qualified by the same, or (b) that with which the object mentioned is said to be identical.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > with what is indicated in the following context > same with
samec1380
samenc1480
(a)
(b)c1380 Eng. Wycliffite Serm. in Sel. Wks. I. 319 As þe spirit þat is mannis soule is þe same persone wiþ him, so the secounde persone of God is þe same persone wiþ þis man.1607 E. Topsell Hist. Foure-footed Beastes 286 The Cheonian horsses are the same with the Aprirolan horsses.1618 J. Hales Let. 27 Dec. 50 in Golden Remains (1659) He could not be ignorant that his quality was the same with theirs.a1641 R. Montagu Acts & Monuments (1642) 179 She was native..of Phrygia and so peradventure was the same with Trojana.1681 Heraclitus Ridens 23 Aug. 2/2 The third was a Paper of Directions, what, and how to plead, which was also denied him, being the same thing with allowing him Council.1764 O. Goldsmith Introd. Gen. Hist. World in Misc. Wks. (1837) I. 531 The materials to which we have had recourse are the same with those which other historians for several ages have employed before us.1829 J. Mill Anal. Human Mind (1869) II. 194 It rested with him to prove that the expectation of a pleasure, or of a pain, is the same thing with the desire, or aversion.1873 E. A. Freeman Hist. Ess. 2nd Ser. 188 This was no difficulty to the Greeks and Macedonians, who looked on the Egyptian Ammon as the same god with their own Zeus.a1387 J. Trevisa tr. R. Higden Polychron. (St. John's Cambr.) (1869) II. 259 Þerfore of þre þe firste kyngdoms, as it were of þe same age wiþ þe kyngdom of Assiries, firste we schal write.
1601 R. Dolman tr. P. de la Primaudaye French Acad. III. 330 The blossomes haue the same virtue with the fruit.
1601 R. Dolman tr. P. de la Primaudaye French Acad. III. 332 The seede and root of this plant haue the same operation with the leafe.
1609 P. Holland tr. Ammianus Marcellinus Rom. Hist. 42 The bishop, being of the same mind and opinion with the rest, was [etc.].
1660 tr. I. Barrow Euclide's Elements vi. 134 Then is that parallelogram about the same diagonall..with the whole.
1699 R. Bentley Diss. Epist. Phalaris (new ed.) Pref. p. lxix He is of the same size for Learning with the late Editor.
1741 S. Johnson Deb. in Gentleman's Mag. Suppl. 671 Debate relating to a seditious Paper of the same Kind with the Considerations on the Embargo on Provisions.
1753 Chambers's Cycl. Suppl. at Bridge Rochester bridge is built in the same style with that of London.
1763 O. Goldsmith in R. Brookes New Syst. Nat. Hist. II. Introd. p. xi They are incapable of the same docility with terrestrial animals, and are less imitative of human perfections.
1803 R. Southey Let. 9 June in C. C. Southey Life & Corr. R. Southey (1850) II. 212 Scott, it seems, adopts the same system of metre with me.
1837 J. G. Lockhart Mem. Life Scott I. x. 325 [He] died..at the same age with Burns and Byron, in 1811.
1842 R. I. Wilberforce Rutilius & Lucius 111 Words of the same nature with those he had heard were chanted at intervals.
1858 H. Spencer Ess. 1st Ser. 254 This..will be found to come under the same generalization with the others.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > with what is indicated in the following context > same of or to
same1692
1692 tr. C. de Saint-Évremond Misc. Ess. 5 'Tis an extraordinary thing to find a Successor endowed with the same Qualities of his Predecessor.
1721 R. Bradley Philos. Acct. Wks. Nature 13 And the Nourishment and Difference of Colours given these Bodies..I suppose to be produced by a cause nearly the same of that which gives us the different Colours in the Leaves and Flowers of Vegetables.
1756 W. Toldervy Hist. Two Orphans III. 33 I am of the same opinion to the gentleman, who spoke last.
a1772 Ess. from Batchelor (1773) I. 96 They fancy themselves in the same situation of the Jews, when their being victors, or vanquished, solely depended on the raising or depressing of Moses's hands.
2. † b. = The aforesaid. Obsolete.† c. the same day: to-day. Obsolete.
a. With backward reference: Identical with what has been indicated.
ΘΚΠ
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > the same as already mentioned
the (this, that) ilkeOE
same1340
of the same1548
just so?1566
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > with what is indicated in the following context > same as
same1340
1340 R. Rolle Pricke of Conscience 25 Þe sam God sythyn was þe bygynnyng And þe first maker of alle thyng.
1340–70 Alex. & Dind. 896 Also ȝe sente vs to saie in þe same time Of oþur manerus mo miche for to lakke.
1362 W. Langland Piers Plowman A. Prol. 106 Tauerners to hem tolde þe same tale Wiþ good wyn of Gaskoyne And wyn of Oseye.
c1400 Pety Job 76 in 26 Pol. Poems 123 Into poudre must I crepe, ffor of that same kynde I am.
c1400 Rule St. Benet (Verse) 1234 And sche ken þe perils of cursing, Sche salbe cursid for þat same þing.
a1578 R. Lindsay Hist. & Cron. Scotl. (1899) I. 147 About the same tyme rang money cuning men be quhose labouris & trawell goode letteris flurischit.
1686 R. Boyle Free Enq. Notion Nature 384 How great a Difference there may be between a Body consider'd absolutely, or by itself, and the same Body consider'd in such Circumstances, as it may be found in.
1886 Law Rep.: Chancery Div. 32 28 The same observations are true of all other contracts similarly circumstanced.
ΘΚΠ
the mind > language > speech > [adjective] > commenting or mentioning > aforementioned
foresaidc1000
beforesaida1250
before-nameda1325
said1327
same1338
abovesaid1389
aforesaid1389
said1397
foretolda1400
above-written1413
y-aforsayde1422
rememberedc1425
toforesaid1444
aforenamedc1460
fore-mindeda1475
forenamed1490
forn-said1509
prenominatea1513
above?1515
above-named1525
premised?c1525
before-mentioned1534
aforementioned1539
predicted1546
prenominated1547
above-mentioned1550
before-told1556
above-cited1575
forementioned1587
supranominated1599
before-delivered1606
former1607
prementioned1620
precited1638
before-noticed1703
oversaid1840
1338 R. Mannyng Chron. (1810) 126 To Normundie ageyn suld turne þe duke Henry, & Ingland alle holy after Steuen þe kyng Suld turne to þe same Henry, withouten geynsaiyng.
1455 Cal. Anc. Rec. Dublin (1889) I. 286 And in case that the sam man or person in hys takyng, make recistens not to be take.
1480 Coventry Leet Bk. 429 We send yewe same bill herin enclosed.
1517 R. Torkington Oldest Diarie Englysshe Trav. (1884) 9 Thursday, the vij Day of May, we retornyed by the same watir of Brent to Venese ageyne.
1535 Bible (Coverdale) Eccl. xii. 9 The same preacher was not wyse alone, but taught the people knowlege also: he gaue good hede, sought out the grounde and set forth many parables.
ΘΚΠ
the world > time > relative time > the present (time) > [noun] > today
todayOE
the same day1572
1572 (a1500) Taill of Rauf Coilȝear (1882) 851 On loud said the Sarazine, ‘I heir the now lie! Befoir the same day I saw the neuer with sicht.’
3.
a. Expressing the identity of an object designated by different names, standing in different relations, or related to different subjects or objects. In this use the noun qualified by same often denotes an indeterminate or hypothetical object, so that the becomes (with a singular) functionally equivalent to the indefinite article, or (with a plural) redundant; hence result occasional ambiguities.Cf. the French ‘Deux mots qui signifient une même chose’, ‘De mêmes causes doivent produire de mêmes effets’ with the ambiguous English ‘Two words which signify the same thing’, ‘The same causes must produce the same effects’.
ΘΚΠ
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective]
the ilkeOE
selfeOE
oneOE
no nothera1325
that ilk (thilk) same1390
one self?a1425
selfsamec1425
the same self1503
proper1523
one (and the) selfsame1531
self-said1548
one and the same1551
identical1581
the same very1590
the very same1597
individuala1602
individually the same1604
a (also one) selfly1605
very1611
same1621
numerical1624
numeric1663
identic1664
synonymous1789
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > identical
oneOE
all oneOE
alikea1393
all like1477
indifferent1530
selfsame1582
identical1601
same1621
identitial1635
identica1657
indistinguishable1658
identifical1673
undistinguishable1679
tautological1689
indistinctible1781
1621 R. Montagu Diatribæ Hist. Tithes 553 Bacchus and Sabasius is the same god.
1662 E. Stillingfleet Origines Sacræ ii. vi. §14 Both these Prophets considered the same people under the same circumstances, and with the same conditions.
1670 R. Graham Angliæ Speculum Morale 160 At this time a Germain and a Fleming were in the same Pension in the Town.
1690 J. Locke Ess. Humane Understanding ii. i. 39 Having Ideas and Perception being the same thing.
1713 R. Steele Englishman No. 8. 55 The same Person is to be paid twice for the same thing.
1738 tr. S. Guazzo Art of Conversat. 221 They cannot live peaceable together in the same House.
1762 A. Dickson Treat. Agric. i. iii. 31 Some kinds of animals,..such as horses, cows, and sheep, are nourished by the same food.
1797 Encycl. Brit. III. 457/2 The flowers are male and female upon the same or different roots.
1809–10 S. T. Coleridge Friend (1865) 142 Sooner or later the same causes, or their equivalents, will call forth the same opposition of opinion, and bring the same passions into play.
1828 W. Scott Fair Maid of Perth vii, in Chron. Canongate 2nd Ser. II. 216 With whom I have so often sat at the same board, and drunken of the same cup.
1835 Penny Cycl. III. 437/2 The old barcarolle was sung in parts, at stem and stern of the same boat, by its own gondoliers.
1868 J. N. Lockyer Elem. Lessons Astron. (1879) iii. §10. 55 All the planets travel round the Sun in the same direction.
1879 G. C. Harlan Eyesight ii. 16 Even in the same eye, half of the iris is sometimes brown, and the other half blue.
1884 Brett in Law Times Rep. 10 May 315/2 I have come to the conclusion..that the Legislature intended in this case to be verbose and tautologous, and to say the same thing twice over.
b. More explicitly, one and the same.[After Latin unus et idem, Greek (ὁ) εἶς καὶ ὁ αὐτός.]
ΘΚΠ
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective]
the ilkeOE
selfeOE
oneOE
no nothera1325
that ilk (thilk) same1390
one self?a1425
selfsamec1425
the same self1503
proper1523
one (and the) selfsame1531
self-said1548
one and the same1551
identical1581
the same very1590
the very same1597
individuala1602
individually the same1604
a (also one) selfly1605
very1611
same1621
numerical1624
numeric1663
identic1664
synonymous1789
1551 T. Wilson Rule of Reason sig. Siiijv Out of one and the same floure the Bee sucketh hony, and the spider draweth poison.
1584 ? Sir P. Sidney Disc. Def. Earl of Leicester in Misc. Wks. (1829) 272 In sum, in one the same man, all the faults that in all the most contrary-humoured men in the world can remain.
c1650 R. Leighton Serm. xviii, in Wks. (1869) II. 227 Never think that one and the same soul can have much pride and much of Christ.
1659 H. More Immortality of Soul ii. i. 113 Perception being really one and the same thing with Reaction of Matter one part against another.
a1806 S. Horsley Serm. (1816) II. xxvi. 304 A sameness of the terms..would be an argument for assigning one and the same meaning to the promises.
1862 D. T. Ansted & R. G. Latham Channel Islands iii. xviii. 411 They belong to one and the same class.
4. Coupled for emphasis with a synonymous adjective: †that ilk (thilk) same, †the same self, †the same very, †the very same. See also selfsame n. and adj.The same self was exceedingly common in the 16th cent.
ΘΚΠ
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective]
the ilkeOE
selfeOE
oneOE
no nothera1325
that ilk (thilk) same1390
one self?a1425
selfsamec1425
the same self1503
proper1523
one (and the) selfsame1531
self-said1548
one and the same1551
identical1581
the same very1590
the very same1597
individuala1602
individually the same1604
a (also one) selfly1605
very1611
same1621
numerical1624
numeric1663
identic1664
synonymous1789
1390 J. Gower Confessio Amantis I. 95 Thilke same speche Which, as thou seist, thou schalt me teche.
a1400 (a1325) Cursor Mundi (Gött.) l. 1918 Þat ilk same day [Vesp. þat ilk dai, Trin. Cambr. þat same day].
a1450 J. Myrc Instr. to Par. Priests 668 Þenne schale he wyth hys owne hondes Brenne þat ylke same bondes.
1503 Rolls of Parl. VI. 522/2 They..shall have..lyke auctorite..as the same selfe Bisshoppes shulde, ought or myght do.
1526 W. Bonde Pylgrimage of Perfection ii. sig. Hii And the same selfe misteries, he afterwarde declared to his disciples.
1589–90 Reg. Privy Council Scotl. IV. 465 Baith having the same selff freindis and commoun enemeyis.
1590 L. Lloyd First Pt. Diall of Daies 169 Q. Metellus triumphed over Creet at the same verie day that Pompei the great triumphed over the Pyrats on sea.
1597 W. Shakespeare Richard III iii. ii. 46 This same very day. View more context for this quotation
1602 W. Shakespeare Merry Wives of Windsor iv. v. 34 She ses the very same man that Beguiled maister Slender of his chaine, Cousoned him of it.
1692 R. L'Estrange Fables ix. 9 The Snake, after his Recovery, is the very same Snake still, that he was at first.
1692 R. L'Estrange Fables xviii. 19 Several of the very same Birds that she had forewarn'd.
5. Appended redundantly to a demonstrative (this, these, that, those, yon). Common in 16–17th centuries; usually expressing some degree of irritation or contempt, sometimes playful familiarity. (Cf. the colloquial this here, that there.) Now archaic.Out of the 95 instances of the word same in Shakespeare, 55 occur in collocation with a demonstrative.For examples in which same has its normal force when preceded by a demonstrative, see senses A. 1 – A. 3.
ΘΚΠ
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > expressing irritation or contempt
same1340
1340–70 Alex. & Dind. 197 In þis same wise.
a1616 W. Shakespeare Merry Wives of Windsor (1623) v. i. 17 That same knaue (Ford hir husband). View more context for this quotation
a1616 W. Shakespeare Measure for Measure (1623) v. i. 267 Call that same Isabell here once againe. View more context for this quotation
1625 F. Bacon Ess. (new ed.) 2 This same Truth, is a Naked, and Open day light.
1637 J. Milton Comus 25 Be not cosen'd With that same-vaunted name Virginitie.
1673 J. Milton At Vacation Exercise in Poems (new ed.) 64 I pray thee then deny me not thy aide For this same small neglect that I have made.
1734 J. Swift On reading Dr. Young's Satires in Epist. to Lady 18 If that same Universal Passion With ev'ry Vice hath fill'd the Nation.
1808 W. Scott Marmion i. xxvi. 47 If this same Palmer will me lead From hence.
1816 J. Wilson City of Plague ii. iii What is the use of these same lamps?
1871 R. Ellis tr. Catullus Poems x. 26 Just for courtesy lend me, dear Catullus, Those same nobodies.
6. Phrases. at the same time: see time n., int., and conj. Phrases 3d(c). by the same token: see token n. 15a. same difference, the same thing, no difference (colloquial).
ΘΚΠ
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [noun] > the same thing or person
selfeOE
the ilkeOE
same1340
that (or this) same1362
selfsamec1422
one (and the) selfsame1531
none1611
identity1616
same difference1945
1945 E. Wilson I am gazing into my 8-ball xx. 106 ‘That fluff from my office.’ ‘Fluff?’ laughed Miss Lawrence. ‘Fluff, doll, same difference.’
1951 J. Cornish Provincials ii. i. 130 ‘I found you.’ ‘I found you.’ ‘Same difference.’
1976 A. Hill Summer's End viii. 115 ‘In the first place,’ he said, ‘these'm boats, not barges.’ ‘Same difference,’ Noggie insisted.
II. In modified senses.
7.
a. Applied to an object as having the same attributes with another or with itself at another time; exactly agreeing in (amount, quality, operation, etc.). Of a person: Unchanged in character, condition of health, etc. Chiefly predicative (cf. B. 1, B. 2). Constructions as in A. 1 – A. 3.Phrases. much the same: approximately the same (cf. much adj. 5). (the) same but (or only) different (colloquial): almost the same; subtly different.
ΘΚΠ
the world > time > change > absence of change, changelessness > [adjective] > unchanged
unwharvedc1175
unchangeda1387
inreformed1548
unaltered1551
unalterate1568
uninfringed1610
unbettered1628
immute1639
unimproved1665
untransmuted1666
same1667
unmodified1668
invarieda1676
fixeda1699
constantc1710
immutate1788
underanged1817
unsuperseded1857
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > the same or unchanged
same1667
the world > relative properties > relationship > difference > [phrase] > alike but subtly different
(the) same but (or only) different1942
1667 J. Milton Paradise Lost i. 256 The mind is its own place, and in it self Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n. What matter where, if I be still the same . View more context for this quotation
1669 S. Sturmy Mariners Mag. iv. 138 If the Course and Distance had been first agreed upon from the Place they were bound to, to be just the same, unto the..Land they first descried.
1719 Free-thinker No. 91. 2 Human Nature is perpetually the same, ever subject to the same Passions and Corruptions.
1758 R. Price Review Morals (1769) viii. 293 (note) A distinction much the same with this may be found in the letters between Dr. Sharp and Mrs. Cockburn.
1836 J. Gilbert Christian Atonem. ix. 394 God himself remains the same before and after the interposition of Christ.
1838 W. H. Prescott Hist. Reign Ferdinand & Isabella II. ii. vi. 414 Bigotry is the same in every faith, and every age.
1855 T. B. Macaulay Hist. Eng. III. xv. 585 His salary was the same with that of the Lord Lieutenant.
1860 Ld. Lytton Lucile ii. ii. iii Do not think that years leave us and find us the same!
1861 M. Pattison in Westm. Rev. Apr. 415 The Steelyard passed with the rest of the parish by the same easy gradations from the old to the new faith.
1893 Bookman June 86/1 Her ambitions superficially so different at different times, and yet substantially the same.
1942 L. V. Berrey & M. Van den Bark Amer. Thes. Slang §16/9 Same but different, nearly the same.
1977 Lancs. Life Nov. 60/1 More seasoned observers may remark that the scene's the same, only different.
b. predicatively. Of a person: Unchanged in behaviour to another.
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1849 C. Dickens David Copperfield (1850) ix. 95 But she was always the same to me. She never changed to her foolish Peggotty.
c. Corresponding in relative position.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > similarity > [adjective] > corresponding or analogous
accordingc1300
proportionate?a1425
proportionablec1443
correspondentc1460
agreeable1540
answerable1551
match1551
analogical1577
suitablea1586
parallela1610
analogal1610
correlativea1626
matching1630
analogic1638
analogous1644
commensurate1644
samea1687
companion1766
homologous1837
to match1838
homological1849
homologic1880
homothetic1886
tallied1895
matched1925
a1687 W. Petty Polit. Anat. Ireland (1691) 18 About 504 M. of the Irish perished..between the 23 of October 1641 and the same day 1652.
1847 W. M. Thackeray Vanity Fair (1848) xxviii. 245 He and I were both shot in the same leg at Talavera.
1856 G. C. Lewis Let. 5 Nov. (1870) 317 The Foreign Office..now holds the same place in our social economy as the Colonial Office used to hold.
1891 ‘J. S. Winter’ Lumley xii. 86 The doctors..have decidedly better hopes than they had yesterday at the same time.
8. Predicatively: Equally acceptable or the contrary; indifferent. Also all the same, just the same.
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the mind > emotion > indifference > [phrase] > a matter of indifference to one
all the same1803
no skin off a person's nose1911
1803 M. Charlton Wife & Mistress (ed. 2) I. 245 He don't vally what he says to young or old, man or woman—it's all the same to old gruffy!
1839 C. Dickens Nicholas Nickleby vii. 62 It's all the same to me.
1847 T. C. Upham Mme. Guyon & Fénélon II. iii. 31 (Funk) To Daniel the lion's den and the monarch's palace are the same.
1914 G. B. Shaw Pygmalion (1916) iii. 157 Pickering. We have taken her to classical concerts and to music..halls; and its all the same to her: she plays everything..she hears right off when she comes home.
1962 L. Deighton Ipcress File 8 If it's all the same to you, Minister, I'd prefer you to make a note of the questions, and ask me afterwards.
9. Predicatively, without article: Characterized by sameness, monotonous. rare.
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the mind > emotion > suffering > feeling of weariness or tedium > [adjective] > wearisome or tedious > lacking variety
humdrum1553
humdrumming1698
humdrummish1731
monotonous1774
samely1799
jog-trot1826
jog-jog1837
jog-trotty1853
same1891
clock-punching1920
monotone1926
samey1929
ho-hum1969
rumdum1973
1891 Pall Mall Gaz. 3 Feb. 6/2 The choruses in ‘Judith’ are numerous, and to the lay mind perhaps a little same.
B. pron. (Constructions as in A.)† 3. Pleonastically emphasizing a demonstrative, used absolute or with ellipsis of the noun. Obsolete.
1. † b. In collocation with a personal pronoun or with a designation of a person, to indicate identity with one who has been mentioned. Obsolete. [A latinism.]
a. The same person or persons.
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1340–70 Alex. & Dind. 780 Ȝe ben soþli þe same of wham þei so tolde.
c1366 G. Chaucer A.B.C. 77 Now queen of comfort sithe þou art þat same To whom j seeche for my medicyne [etc.].
1616 B. Jonson Epigrammes xxxiii & xxxii, in Wks. I. 777 On Sir Iohn Roe... To the same.
1817 J. Mill Hist. Brit. India II. v. ix. 707 An appeal from the King's Council, to the King in Council, was ridiculed, even by the opponents of the bill, as an appeal from the same to the same.
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1377 W. Langland Piers Plowman B. iii. 26 Thanne lauȝte þei leue, þis lordes, at Mede. With that comen clerkis to conforte hir þe same.
1548 N. Udall et al. tr. Erasmus Paraphr. Newe Test. I. Acts 1 With the aduise and consente of the moste prudent and the same his moste dere vncle.
1598 R. Grenewey tr. Tacitus Annales ii. xvii. 57 Shew the people of Rome Augustus neece, and the same my wife [L. Augusti neptem eandemque conjugem meam].
2. † b. Phrases. of the same: in the same way. to the (this) same: to the same effect. with the same: at the same moment. Obsolete.
a. The same thing. (See A. 2, A. 3) †Formerly also that same, this same.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [noun] > the same thing or person
selfeOE
the ilkeOE
same1340
that (or this) same1362
selfsamec1422
one (and the) selfsame1531
none1611
identity1616
same difference1945
1340–70 Alex. & Dind. 1009 But þe same þat ȝe so by vs silf trowe Longeþ, ludus, to ȝou þat liuen so in ese.
1390 J. Gower Confessio Amantis I. 19 Who that here wordes understode, It thenkth thei wolden do the same.
c1400 Rule St. Benet (verse) 488 And also crist in his godspell Of þis same makes minde o-mell.
a1450 J. Myrc Festial 8 Anon he made to take hym, and constrayne hym forto haue done þe same.
a1536 W. Tyndale Pathway Holy Script. in Wks. (1573) I. 383/2 What soeuer is done to the lest of vs..it is done to Christ, and what soeuer is done to my brother (if I be a Christen man) that same is done to me.
c1540 (?a1400) Destr. Troy 9772 Þe sam to my-self, sothli, may happyn.
1576 A. Fleming tr. Cicero in Panoplie Epist. 142 I haue commended Strabo Seruilius unto you oftentimes: and do the same againe at this instant.
1677 T. Gale Court of Gentiles: Pt. IV iv. 489 Here that common Proverbe holds true, ‘When two do the same it is not the same’.
1687 A. Lovell tr. J. de Thévenot Trav. into Levant i. 112 I failed not to speak to our Vice-Consul of the Light I had seen in the Isle of Samos, and he told me all the same that the rest did.
1711 J. Greenwood tr. J. Wallis in Ess. Pract. Eng. Gram. Pref. 2 So the French Words guerre [etc.]..signify the same with these English Words.
1812 R. Southey Let. 16 Feb. in C. C. Southey Life & Corr. R. Southey (1850) III. 328 It is the same in our age that it was in our youth.
1848 C. Kingsley Bad Squire xiv If your misses had slept, squire, where they slept, Your misses would do the same.
1864 J. H. Newman Apologia (1904) v. 168/1 When I became a Catholic, nothing struck me more..than the English out-spoken manner of the Priests. It was the same at Oscott, at Old Hall Green, at Ushaw.
1896 A. E. Housman Shropshire Lad xliii. 65 Bring the eternal seed to light, And morn is all the same as night.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adverb]
alsoOE
after onec1385
alikea1393
of the same1399
in likec1400
accordinglyc1449
in like casea1459
after one rate1509
like1529
numericallyc1600
identically1625
undistinguishably1671
formally1682
just the same1874
the world > action or operation > manner of action > [phrase] > in this, some, any, etc., way > in the same way
in like form1297
in manner ofa1375
of the same1399
the same1765
just the same1874
the world > relative properties > relationship > equality or equivalence > [adverb] > equivalently
to the (this) same1399
equivalentlya1529
valuably1627
tantamountingly1655
equipollentlya1677
convertibly1710
coextensively1843
the world > time > relative time > simultaneity or contemporaneousness > [adverb]
on (or in) one sitheeOE
togethersc1175
togetherc1200
at once?c1225
at one shiftc1325
jointly1362
at one strokec1374
with that ilkec1390
at one shipea1400
withc1440
at a timec1485
at (in) one (an) instant1509
all at a shove1555
pari passu1567
in (also at, with) one breath1590
in that ilkec1590
with the same1603
in one1616
concurrently1648
concurringly1650
contemporarily1669
simultaneously1675
synchronistically1684
coevallya1711
in (also with) the same breath1721
synchronically1749
at a slap1753
synchronously1793
contemporaneously1794
coinstantaneously1807
coetaneouslya1817
consentaneously1817
at one or a sweep1834
coincidentally1837
at the very nonce1855
one time1873
coincidently1875
in parallel1969
real time1993
1399 W. Langland Richard Redeles Prol. 14 All þe londe..ros with him rapely to riȝtyn his wronge, For he shullde hem serue of þe same after.
c1400 Rule St. Benet (verse) 373 Also we se ȝit to þe same.
c1400 Rule St. Benet (verse) 461 For hali writ sais on þis wise: ‘Þe fole with word may non chastese.’.. And to þis sam, als clerks may kun, Þe wise man sais: ‘Chastise þi sun [etc.].’
1603 P. Holland tr. Plutarch Morals 1027 He spake the word, and with the same, Immediatly out came the name.
c. With omission of article. rare.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [noun] > the same
samenc1480
one and the same1531
same1638
1638 R. Brathwait Barnabees Journall (new ed.) ii. sig. F7 What I was once, same I am now.
d. (the) same again: another drink of the same kind as the last; same here: the same (thing) applies to me; my case is similar; I agree; (the) same to you; I say the same thing to you (as you have just said); frequently used as a retort.
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the mind > language > statement > assent > [interjection]
right1594
do1601
sure1651
all right1814
OK1839
ryebuck1859
yassuh1871
achcha1892
righto1893
same here1896
quaiss kitir1898
check1922
righty-ho1926
oke1929
okey-dokey1932
okey-doke1934
okle-dokle1947
cool1948
seen1973
aight1993
1896 W. C. Gore in Inlander Jan. 150 Same here! I agree.
1907 A. P. McKishnie Gaff Linkum xi. 59 ‘I've enj'yed th' ride in th' moonlight jest as much as I enj'yed th' singin' school.’ ‘Same here,’ said Mr. Goosecall.
1911 G. B. Shaw Shewing-up Blanco Posnet in Doctor's Dilemma 404 Blanco. Dearly beloved brethren—A Boy. Same to you, Blanco.
1913 R. Kipling Diversity of Creatures (1917) 288 ‘Do you know I've broken this man's neck?’ ‘Same here,’ I says.
1915 Punch 13 Oct. 315/2 The Dawn of the No-treating Era. First Reveller. ‘My health!’ Second Reveller. ‘Same here!’
1925 New Yorker 17 Oct. 12/2 The same to you.
1929 D. H. Lawrence in Star Rev. Nov. 624 It is as if the young girl said to the young man today: I rather like you, you know. You are so thrillingly repulsive to me.—And as if the young man replied: Same here!
1938 L. MacNeice Earth Compels 22 What will you have now? The same again?
1949 G. B. Shaw Buoyant Billions ii. 21 A chain shopkeeper, not a country squire. She. Same here: my father is a famous lucky financier.
1959 I. Opie & P. Opie Lore & Lang. Schoolchildren iii. 45 Same to you with knobs on.
1962 Sunday Times 19 Aug. 18 ‘I'm a rugged individualist: I think for myself.’ ‘Me too.’ ‘Same here.’
1972 H. Kemelman Monday Rabbi took Off xxi. 136 ‘To tell the truth, I think it was the rebbitzin that wrote it and he signed it.’ ‘Same here.’
1975 D. O'Sullivan in D. Marcus Best Irish Short Stories (1977) II. 90 A thump on the counter brought the barmaid... ‘Same again, ladies?’
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1598 W. Shakespeare Love's Labour's Lost ii. i. 194 Sir, I pray you a word, What Ladie is that same ? View more context for this quotation
1599 W. Shakespeare Romeo & Juliet iv. iv. 169 What a pestilent knaue is this same . View more context for this quotation
1611 Bible (King James) Acts xxiv. 20 Let these same here [1881 R.V. these men themselves] say, if they haue found any evill doing in mee. View more context for this quotation
a1616 W. Shakespeare Two Gentlemen of Verona (1623) iii. i. 137 What Letter is this same ? View more context for this quotation
4. † c. (the) same; = ditto n. Obsolete.† d. Chiefly Heraldry. of the same: of the kind or description last mentioned. Obsolete.
a. the same, †that (or this) same: the aforesaid person or thing. Often merely the equivalent of a personal pronoun; he, she, it, they. Now rare in literary use; still common in legal documents; also (with reference to things) in commercial language (where the is sometimes omitted). Cf. German der-, die-, dasselbe.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [noun] > the same thing or person
selfeOE
the ilkeOE
same1340
that (or this) same1362
selfsamec1422
one (and the) selfsame1531
none1611
identity1616
same difference1945
the mind > language > statement > acknowledgement or recognition > acknowledgement [phrase] > acknowledgement of one's identity
the same1362
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [noun] > the same thing or person > the same thing as mentioned before
idemOE
swilkc1175
that (or this) same1362
id?c1663
abovesaid1684
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [noun] > that one or this one
that (or this) same?a1513
1362 W. Langland Piers Plowman A. iii. 27 Þenne [lauȝten] þei leue þis lordynges, at Meede. Wiþ þat þer come Clerkes to Cumforte þe same.
c1400 Lansdowne Ritual in Rule St. Benet, etc. 143 Þe nouyce sal..singe þare thrise: ‘Suscipe me, domine’ &c. Þe couent..sall reherce þe same again thrise, and ‘Gloria patri’.
c1400 Mandeville's Trav. (1839) viii. 97 Upon that same schalle he sytte,..righte as himself seyde.
c1450 Cov. Myst. (Shaks. Soc.) ii. 25 Take this appyl and ete this ssame, This ffrute is best as I the telle.
1474 W. Caxton tr. Game & Playe of Chesse (1883) Ded. 1 That ye sawe gladly the Inhabitants of ye same enformed in good, vertuous, prouffitable and honeste maners.
1484 W. Caxton tr. Subtyl Historyes & Fables Esope iii. vii [Men] ought to preyse and loue the chirche and the commaundements of the same.
1503 in C. Kerry Hist. St. Lawrence, Reading (1883) 111 Also ij staynyd clothis wt ryddels to þe same.
1509 J. Fisher Mornynge Remembraunce Countesse of Rychemonde (de Worde) sig. Aii v Aboue all these same there is a foure maner of noblenes.
a1513 W. Dunbar Poems (1998) I. 237 Ȝour hienes can nocht gett an meter To keip ȝour wardrope, nor discreter To rewle ȝour robbis and dres the sam.
1535 Bible (Coverdale) Lev. xiii. 40 Whan the hayres fall out of the heade of a man or a woman, so that he is balde, the same is cleane.
1549 Bk. Common Prayer (STC 16267) Celebr. Holye Communion f. xxiv Graunt that they maie both perceaue and knowe what thinges they ought to do, and also haue grace and power faithfully to fulfill the same.
1583 P. Stubbes Second Pt. Anat. Abuses sig. I6v Watermen haunt the waters, and fishes swim in the same.
1596 E. Spenser Second Pt. Faerie Queene iv. x. sig. I6v That was a temple..Farre renowmed..Much more then that, which was in Paphos built, Or that in Cyprus, both long since this same . View more context for this quotation
1611 Bible (King James) Matt. xxiv. 13 But he that shall endure vnto the end, the same shall be saued. View more context for this quotation
a1616 W. Shakespeare Comedy of Errors (1623) iv. i. 11 In the instant that I met with you, He had of me a Chaine, at fiue a clocke I shall receiue the money for the same . View more context for this quotation
1621 in H. Owen & J. B. Blakeway Hist. Shrewsbury (1825) I. 574 Laid out in stocking up of the gorst in Kingsland, making the same into faggottes.
?1677 S. Primatt City & Covntry Purchaser & Builder 8 An over-shot-mill, which is the water brought to the top of the wheel, in landers or troughs which cast the same into Buckets made in the wheel for the receipt of the same, the force and weight of which water drives the same.
1790 Coll. Voy. round World V. x. 1755 The natives thinking we were determined to pay not the least consideration, at length ceased to apply for the same.
1804 W. Cruise Digest Laws Eng. Real Prop. III. 362 If such tenant for life die on the day on which the same was made payable, the whole [rent must be paid].
1820 J. Keats Isabella in Lamia & Other Poems 50 Her lute-string gave an echo of his name, She spoilt her half-done broidery with the same.
1901 M. Franklin My Brilliant Career viii. 56 A big red-bearded man..had received a letter from Mrs. Bossier instructing him to take care of me. He informed me also that he was glad to do what he termed ‘that same’.
1926 in H. W. Fowler Mod. Eng. Usage 512/1 Sir,—Having in mind the approaching General Election, it appears to me that the result of same is likely to be as much a farce as the last.
1966 G. W. Turner Eng. Lang. in Austral. & N.Z. vi. 135 A different influence of written language is seen in the use of same as a pronoun equivalent to it, as in ‘put the tailboard up and secure same with a length of wire’ from New Zealand (Wally Crump, 1964), a facetious borrowing of lawyer's English which is quite common.
1973 N.Y. Law Jrnl. 24 July 4/4 The following sentence in a brief is typical of its misuse as a noun: ‘Waldbaum purchased the soda..then stacked it on the shelves in order to sell the same.’
b. †As an answer when addressed by name; = ‘I am he’. Obsolete. Also colloquial in confirming a conjecture as to the identity of a person mentioned by the speaker.
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1600 W. Shakespeare Much Ado about Nothing ii. i. 174 Benedicke Count Claudio. Claudio Yea, the same . View more context for this quotation
1889 Chatterbox 24 Aug. 323/1 ‘Have you ever heard of Red Jim?’ ‘The bushranger, do you mean?’ asked Allan. ‘The same. Well, this man [etc.]’.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [noun] > the same thing or person > the same thing as mentioned before > ditto
same1486
ditto1678
do.1722
1486 Bk. St. Albans b iij Take the Juce of percelly Moris otherwise calde percelly Rootis, and thossame of Isop.
1615 R. Cocks Diary 18 June (1883) I. 11 He gave me a present of 3 nestes gocas, with their trenchers and ladells of mother of perle, with 10 spoons same, and a peece of white Liquea cloth.
1663 B. Gerbier Counsel to Builders 72 Rafters ten and seven inches, Purloyns the same, Plates the same.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adjective] > the same as already mentioned
the (this, that) ilkeOE
same1340
of the same1548
just so?1566
1548 Hall's Vnion: Henry VIII f. xxv The kyng..was appareilled in almayne ryuet crested & his vambrace of thesame.
?a1588 Glover's Ordinary 38 in Edmondson's Her. I Ar. in fesse three pellets betw. two bars sa. in chief two goats heads erased gu. attired or.; in base one of the same. Gethinge.
1625 F. Bacon Ess. (new ed.) 265 A Greene Court Plaine, with a Wall about it: A Second Court of the same, but more Garnished.
5.
a. quasi-n. An identical thing. nonce-uses.
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the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [noun] > the same thing or person > an identical thing
identity1570
same1690
indistinguishable1903
1690 J. Dryden Amphitryon v. 51 Two drops of water, cannot be more like. Pol. They are two very same's.
1700 J. Dryden tr. Ovid Of Pythagorean Philos. in Fables 515 Ev'n our own Bodies daily change receive,..Nor are to Day what Yesterday they were; Nor the whole same to Morrow will appear.
b. plural Linguistics. Features or utterances that are identical.
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1926 L. Bloomfield in Language 2 155 Within certain communities successive utterances are alike or partly alike... That which is alike will be called same. That which is not same is different. This enables us to use these words without reference to non-linguistic shades of sound and meaning.
1948 B. Bloch in Language 24 10 Successive phonotations composed wholly of the same articulations are the same. Other aspects are different.]
1961 R. B. Long Sentence & its Parts xvii. 378 The evidence of history warrants our regarding the italicized words in the following pairs as ‘sames’ in spite of the differences in meanings. We rode in the day coach. We went with the football coach [etc.].
1962 E. F. Haden et al. Resonance-theory for Ling. ii. 15 Two language entities, between which there is a state of Resonance, may be found to be ‘sames’ as to their Form.
1964 D. Crystal & R. Quirk Syst. Prosodic & Paraling. Features Eng. iv. 49 We should..only subsequently look for the correlations between postulated ‘sames’ of tension and formal items in the linguistic and situational context which will enable us to make statements of meaning.
1977 Trans. Philol. Soc. 1975 9 Certain configurations in languages typically result from the principled (‘lawful’) divergence over time of original sames.
C. adv. and in adverbial phrases.
1. the same:
a. in the same manner; (in weakened sense) just as. Const. as. to think the same of: to have the same (good) opinion of (a person). Similarly, to feel the same to.Now rare in literary use; common dialect, often with omission of the.
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the world > action or operation > manner of action > [phrase] > in this, some, any, etc., way > in the same way
in like form1297
in manner ofa1375
of the same1399
the same1765
just the same1874
the world > relative properties > relationship > similarity > [adverb] > so or in such a manner
soc888
ylikeeOE
asOE
so‥asa1225
likea1393
like asc1475
s'a1616
the same1765
same like1898
the mind > attention and judgement > esteem > [verb (transitive)] > continue to esteem
to think the same of1861
1765 Museum Rusticum 3 240 Sow the seed broad-cast,..then harrow it in, the same as turnep seed.
1827 D. Johnson Sketches Indian Field Sports (ed. 2) 154 There is a physical cause for this, which operates the same in India as in the holy land.
1857 ‘S. Sondnokkur’ Ryde fro Ratchda to Manchistur (ed. 2) iv. 9 Aw kuddunt elp wundurin..wether it wur to put iz grund coffi in, saym uz wi dun o whoam.
1857 ‘S. Sondnokkur’ Ryde fro Ratchda to Manchistur (ed. 2) vi. 14 Thir wur o rattlin saym uz uv o lot a peawur looms.
1861 ‘G. Eliot’ Silas Marner xviii. 325 You'll never think the same of me again.
1884 ‘M. Twain’ Adventures Huckleberry Finn ii. 24 Strange niggers would..look him all over, same as if he was a wonder.
1930 W. Faulkner As I lay Dying 4 She ought to taken those cakes when she same as gave you her word.
1933 M. Lowry Ultramarine i. 16 He knows bloody well same as myself it doesn't pay to shout and be unkind to youngsters.
1957 L. P. Hartley Hireling viii. 65 But I shouldn't be able to serve them personally, same as I do now.
1975 Listener 6 Feb. 174/1 There was no work... They were all bad years, because, same as I say, there was nothing.
b. = ‘all the same’: see A. 2. Obsolete exc. poetic.
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the mind > attention and judgement > testing > attestation, witness, evidence > qualification > [adverb] > however, nevertheless, notwithstanding
though-whetherc897
nathelesseOE
though971
whetherOE
yetOE
neverlOE
what for-thyc1175
nethelessa1200
never the latterc1225
algatec1230
in spite of (despite, maugre, etc.) one's teethc1230
nought for thatc1275
(all) for noughtc1325
(in) spite of one's nosec1325
alway1340
thoughless1340
ne'er the later (also latter)a1382
ne'er the lessa1382
neverlatera1382
neverthelessa1382
ne for-thia1400
neverlessa1400
not-againstandinga1400
nauthelessc1400
nouthelessc1400
algatesc1405
noughtwithstanding1422
netherless?a1425
notwithstanding1425
nethertheless1440
not gainstandingc1440
not the lessa1450
alwaysa1470
howbeit1470
never þe quedera1475
nought the lessc1480
what reck?a1513
nonetheless1533
howsomever1562
after all1590
in spite of spite1592
meantime1594
notwithstand1596
withal1596
in the meanwhile1597
meanwhile1597
howsoever1601
in (one's) spite?1615
however1623
in the meantime1631
non obstante1641
at the same time1679
with a non-obstante to1679
stilla1699
the same1782
all the same1803
quand même1825
still and all1829
anyhow1867
anyway1876
still and ona1894
all the samey1897
just the same1901
but1939
1782 F. Burney Cecilia III. vi. i. 224 Suppose I am a cabinet-maker? When I send in my chairs, do I ask who is to sit upon them? No; it's all one to me..I must be paid for the chairs the same, use them who may.
1884 R. Browning Ferishtah's Fancies (1885) 39 For as our liege the Shah's sublime estate Merely enhaloes, leaves him man the same, So [etc.].
c. same like adj. just like, the same as, in the same manner as. dialect, nonstandard, or jocular.
ΘΚΠ
the world > relative properties > relationship > similarity > [adverb] > so or in such a manner
soc888
ylikeeOE
asOE
so‥asa1225
likea1393
like asc1475
s'a1616
the same1765
same like1898
1898 W. P. Ridge Mord Em'ly x. 142 Beef Pudding same like Mother makes!
1922 E. O'Neill Anna Christie ii. 134 Two my bro'der dey gat lost on fishing boat same like your bro'ders vas drowned.
1928 J. M. Peterkin Scarlet Sister Mary iv. 47 E weddin-dress fits em same like a green shuck fits a young ear o corn.
1928 J. M. Peterkin Scarlet Sister Mary xix. 207 I'll lay down on de ground an' holler same like a dog.
1928 J. M. Peterkin Scarlet Sister Mary xxi. 227 ‘How you do today?’ ‘Fine. Same like a lamb a-jumpin.’
1959 A. Christie Cat among Pigeons ix. 107 ‘See no evil, hear no evil, think no evil. Same like the monkeys,’ observed Sergeant Percy Bond.
1968 ‘L. Egan’ Serious Investigation vi. 78 But same like the gent in Holy Writ, Beware the anger of a patient man.
1973 G. Mitchell Murder of Busy Lizzie xv. 185 Ain't going to be no share-out. Same like the boy with the apple-core, if you happen to know that story.
1980 I. Murdoch Nuns & Soldiers vii. 382 I have rich friends, same like you.
2. all the same: in spite of what has been mentioned; even if circumstances had been otherwise; nevertheless, notwithstanding.
ΘΚΠ
the mind > attention and judgement > testing > attestation, witness, evidence > qualification > [adverb] > however, nevertheless, notwithstanding
though-whetherc897
nathelesseOE
though971
whetherOE
yetOE
neverlOE
what for-thyc1175
nethelessa1200
never the latterc1225
algatec1230
in spite of (despite, maugre, etc.) one's teethc1230
nought for thatc1275
(all) for noughtc1325
(in) spite of one's nosec1325
alway1340
thoughless1340
ne'er the later (also latter)a1382
ne'er the lessa1382
neverlatera1382
neverthelessa1382
ne for-thia1400
neverlessa1400
not-againstandinga1400
nauthelessc1400
nouthelessc1400
algatesc1405
noughtwithstanding1422
netherless?a1425
notwithstanding1425
nethertheless1440
not gainstandingc1440
not the lessa1450
alwaysa1470
howbeit1470
never þe quedera1475
nought the lessc1480
what reck?a1513
nonetheless1533
howsomever1562
after all1590
in spite of spite1592
meantime1594
notwithstand1596
withal1596
in the meanwhile1597
meanwhile1597
howsoever1601
in (one's) spite?1615
however1623
in the meantime1631
non obstante1641
at the same time1679
with a non-obstante to1679
stilla1699
the same1782
all the same1803
quand même1825
still and all1829
anyhow1867
anyway1876
still and ona1894
all the samey1897
just the same1901
but1939
1803 M. Charlton Wife & Mistress (ed. 2) I. 121 But who would have thought of my Lady Countess having a maid sent with young Miss, whilst my Dolly have nothing to do, but to milk a cow or two, and dust and scrub a bit, and cook a bit; and could all the same wait upon she too!
1845 B. Disraeli Sybil III. vi. iii. 178 What you say is well worth attention; but all the same I feel we are on the eve of a regular crisis.
1852 A. H. Clough Corr. 9 Dec. (1957) II. 345 This winter..is extraordinarily mild—today, a little hoar frost but bright sunshine all the same.
1856 F. E. Paget Owlet of Owlstone Edge 164 No, thank you. Obliged to you, Henry, all the same.
1861 J. Pycroft Agony Point (1862) 340 Audrey remarked that the said allowance made little difference; the money would have gone all the same.
1868 A. C. Swinburne W. Blake 176 A man is locked up, with keys of gold indeed, yet is he a prisoner all the same.
1878 J. Ruskin Let. to Dr. J. Brown 21 Oct. I was very sorry to come away. All the same, I'm glad to be at home again.
3. just the same:
a. Exactly in the same manner. Const. as.
ΘΚΠ
the world > relative properties > relationship > identity > [adverb]
alsoOE
after onec1385
alikea1393
of the same1399
in likec1400
accordinglyc1449
in like casea1459
after one rate1509
like1529
numericallyc1600
identically1625
undistinguishably1671
formally1682
just the same1874
the world > action or operation > manner of action > [phrase] > in this, some, any, etc., way > in the same way
in like form1297
in manner ofa1375
of the same1399
the same1765
just the same1874
1874 T. B. Aldrich Prudence Palfrey xiv. 281 And in the meantime Dillingham will continue his visits here just the same?
b. None the less.
ΘΚΠ
the mind > attention and judgement > testing > attestation, witness, evidence > qualification > [adverb] > however, nevertheless, notwithstanding
though-whetherc897
nathelesseOE
though971
whetherOE
yetOE
neverlOE
what for-thyc1175
nethelessa1200
never the latterc1225
algatec1230
in spite of (despite, maugre, etc.) one's teethc1230
nought for thatc1275
(all) for noughtc1325
(in) spite of one's nosec1325
alway1340
thoughless1340
ne'er the later (also latter)a1382
ne'er the lessa1382
neverlatera1382
neverthelessa1382
ne for-thia1400
neverlessa1400
not-againstandinga1400
nauthelessc1400
nouthelessc1400
algatesc1405
noughtwithstanding1422
netherless?a1425
notwithstanding1425
nethertheless1440
not gainstandingc1440
not the lessa1450
alwaysa1470
howbeit1470
never þe quedera1475
nought the lessc1480
what reck?a1513
nonetheless1533
howsomever1562
after all1590
in spite of spite1592
meantime1594
notwithstand1596
withal1596
in the meanwhile1597
meanwhile1597
howsoever1601
in (one's) spite?1615
however1623
in the meantime1631
non obstante1641
at the same time1679
with a non-obstante to1679
stilla1699
the same1782
all the same1803
quand même1825
still and all1829
anyhow1867
anyway1876
still and ona1894
all the samey1897
just the same1901
but1939
1901 ‘H. McHugh’ John Henry 59 ‘My mother was a lady’, so She said, but just the same She ate boiled cabbage with a knife Except when company came.
Compounds
C1. General attributive.
a.
same-aged adj.
ΚΠ
1949 M. Mead Male & Female xiv. 285 He will frown upon the same-aged youth who has a reputation for active premarital sex relations.
same-kidneyed adj.
ΚΠ
1674 N. Fairfax Treat. Bulk & Selvedge Ep. Ded. The same-kidneyed men, who have..a sharp flowt at the end of their tongue.
same-named adj.
ΚΠ
1954 S. Duke-Elder Parsons' Dis. Eye (ed. 12) xxviii. 473 In vertical palsies the paresis is due to failure of the ‘same-named’ rectus muscle (in the left superior area, the left superior rectus) or the most ‘crossed-named’ oblique muscle (right inferior oblique).
same-natured adj.
ΚΠ
1696 J. Sergeant Method to Sci. i. ii. 20 The same Causes upon the same-natur'd Subjects, must work the same Effects.
same-seemingness n.
ΚΠ
1845 P. J. Bailey Festus (ed. 2) 230 Lest long same-seemingness should send me mad!
same-sexed adj.
same-sidedness n.
ΚΠ
1977 Lancet 24 Sept. 657/2 There is sometimes same-sidedness in familial breast cancer.
same-sized adj.
ΚΠ
1764 Museum Rusticum (1765) 3 lii. 229 Let this be done deep, and still in the same-sized ridges.
1951 W. de la Mare Winged Chariot 32 On every nut there swelled the same-sized husk.
same-soundingness n.
ΚΠ
1839 P. J. Bailey Festus 42 The sea..In its sublime samesoundedness laughed out.
b.
same-day adj.
ΚΠ
1967 Punch 22 Feb. 258/3 And such cleaning and pressing, a same-day service like you never seen.
same-size adj.
ΚΠ
1967 R. R. Karch & E. J. Buber Graphic Arts Procedures: Offset Processes v. 151 Set the camera for same-size reproduction.
C2.
same-level n. Social Science analogous; that uses an established principle in one field of research for the explanation or analysis of phenomena in another field.
ΘΚΠ
society > society and the community > study of society > [adjective] > theories or methods of analysis
functional1884
Webbite1890
neo-critical1894
structural-functional1898
Tolstoyan1898
functionalist1907
Webbian1913
Paretian1916
situational1916
Paretan1932
verstehende1933
reflexive1934
same-level1934
sociographic1934
idealistic1937
ideational1937
Parsonian1945
social Darwinist1945
culturalist1948
structural1948
contextualized1951
metasociological1953
structural functionalist1953
meta-sociologistic1964
Lévi-Straussian1967
postcolonial1970
decontextualized1971
cliometric1974
postcolonialist1981
intersectional1989
the world > relative properties > relationship > similarity > [adjective] > corresponding or analogous > of an explanation, translation, etc.
same-level1934
1934 J. T. Wisdom in Aristotelian Soc. Suppl. Vol. XIII. 66 When the psychologist says ‘I am in awe of you’ means ‘I fear and admire you’ he is giving a more ostensive but still same-level translation of the first sentence.
1936 Mind 45 442 All material analysis is ‘same-level analysis’.
1958 J. M. Argyle Relig. Behaviour xii. 141 A third kind of theory explains an empirical result by showing that it is an example of a law in another field of research—this will be called a ‘same-level’ theory.
1958 J. M. Argyle Relig. Behaviour xii. 143 This is clearly a ‘same-level’ explanation, postulating that religion is learnt by the same processes of socialization as are other attitudes and beliefs.
same-ways adv. in the same direction.
ΘΚΠ
the world > space > direction > [adverb] > in the same direction
same-ways1887
1887 Sir W. Thomson in Nature 3 Oct. 546/2 Every A is at the centre of an equal and similar, and same-ways oriented, tetrahedron of O's.
Draft additions September 2016
Originally U.S. same old, same old: used to convey that something is unvaryingly familiar or drearily predictable.In quots. 19641 and 19642 as the title of a song by U.S. jazz pianist and composer Roger Kellaway (b. 1939) who in correspondence with the editors made the following comment:‘In 1959 I was playing bass with Ralph Marterie's Big Band. In the saxophone section playing first Tenor was Joe Farrell. Joe was the first person that I ever heard say, "Same Old, Same Old". I have no recollection of ever hearing anyone else use this expression. I just liked it as a song title. That's why I used it.’ (From an email dated 12 March 2016).
ΚΠ
1964 Billboard 22 Feb. 28/4 Listeners will probably be hearing his [sc. Roger Kellaway's] ‘Same Old, Same Old’ played as a single on many pop radio stations across the country in the near future.
1964 R. Kellaway (title of song) in Jazz Portrait Same old, same old.
1988 J. Ellroy Big Nowhere vii. 78 The slattern tapped the strip with a long red nail. ‘The same old same old. What can I do you for?’
1994 Minnesota Monthly Aug. 54/2 It's the same old same old every year at the fair.
2005 M. St. Amant Committed (new ed.) Epil. 281 My season can be described in four words: same old, same old.
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