Dad and Daven.adj.

Brit.

/ˌdad (ə)n ˈdeɪv/, U.S.

/ˌdæd (ə)n ˈdeɪv/, Australian English

/ˌdæd (ə)n ˈdæev/

Inflections: Plural Dads and Daves.

Origin: From a proper name, combined with English elements. Etymons: dad n.¹, and conj.¹, proper name Dave.

Etymology: < dad n.¹ + and conj.¹ + Dave, pet form of the male forename David (see Davidic adj.), after the names of the father and son characters, Dad and Dave Rudd, featuring in comic short stories about farming life on a rural selection (see free selection n.), written by Australian author ‘Steele Rudd’ (Arthur Hoey Davis (1868–1935)) and based on his father's experience.The first of these stories was printed in The Bulletin (Sydney) on 14 December 1895; a collection On our Selection was published in 1899 and subsequently used as the basis for popular radio, stage, and film adaptations.

Australian colloquial (frequently humorous or derogatory).

A. n.

Farmers or settlers of the type represented by the characters Dad and Dave (see etymology), esp. those working small-scale farms in remote rural areas; such farmers or settlers regarded as uneducated country bumpkins or hicks. Now chiefly historical.

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the world > food and drink > farming > farmer > [noun] > rustic or peasant > ignorant > collectively

yokeldom1875

Dad and Dave1914

1914 Sunday Times (Perth, W. Austral.) 4 Jan. 23/3 The Premier concludes that the finances must be balanced, and..Dad and Dave must pay up by means of increased cost for State services.

1926 Gundagai (New S. Wales) Times 27 July 2/4 If those knights of the pen were to visit our rural centres they would learn..that the ‘Dads’ and ‘Daves’ are shrewd, hard headed business men.

1935 Farmer & Settler (New S. Wales) 3 Oct. 16/2 These are to them merely the outback ‘Dads’ and ‘Daves’ of Australian jocularity.

1936 Mirror (Perth, Austral.) 10 Oct. 2/3 In vain I looked for the types I sought—old slop clothes, wheat growing out of their ears, real old Dads and Daves.

1946 Queensland Times 14 Aug. 2/3 Those days of Dad and Dave have gone. The ‘cocky’ is as well dressed and as well educated as city ‘slickers’ are.

2007 T. Henzell Austral. Agric. iv. 161 That was mechanised too (only the Dads and Daves of Australian agriculture continued to pioneer with axe and hoe).

B. adj. (attributive).

1. Of, relating to, or designating a person or people resembling Dad and Dave, esp. in being countrified, uneducated, or boorish.

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1925 Gundagai (New S. Wales) Independent 20 Apr. The countryman of the ‘Dad and Dave’ type was not there—he has gone out of existence.

1947 Courier-Mail (Brisbane) 26 June 3/4 Most..farmers were ‘prospering businessmen instead of the “Dad and Dave Hicks” that many city dwellers imagined them to be’.

1974 P. Hogan in Austral. Women's Weekly 18 Sept. 7/2 I am not a Dad and Dave type. I am just basic Aussie builder's labourer.

1988 Herald (Melbourne) (Nexis) 25 Mar. (Weekend section) 15 Waggish, lumbering, fond of a beer, a chat and a day out fishing, Les brings a Dad and Dave air to the world of the prominent racing identity.

2001 Advertiser (Austral.) (Nexis) 11 Dec. 18 It doesn't..occur to them that maybe the Dad-and-Dave image of farm boys, the country yokel reputation, is the handicap.

2. Designating a joke featuring Dad and Dave, esp. one portraying them as uneducated country bumpkins or hicks; (also) designating coarse or earthy humour of the type associated with Dad and Dave.

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the mind > emotion > pleasure > laughter > causing laughter > [adjective] > humorous or jesting > other qualities of jests or humour

unwormwooded1628

ledger1655

canny1874

heavy-handed1910

off-colour1915

Dad and Dave1935

sick1959

observational1981

1935 Queensland Times 2 Nov. 10/2 The Minister deprecated disparagement of farming and farmers by ‘Dad and Dave’ jokes and cartoons.

1959 Jrnl. Amer. Folklore 72 371 They are at their best in the songs that must be bawled out, like ‘Wallaby Stew’, with its Dad-and-Dave humor.

1978 Canberra Times 24 July 24/1 An old Dad and Dave joke..that goes along the lines, ‘Dad, do you want a book for Christmas?’ ‘No thanks son, I've got one already.’

1994 Sydney Morning Herald (Nexis) 25 Jan. 24 It's popular art.., not tasteless but a bit coarse. It seems a very Australian, Dad-and-Dave type of humour that is now lost.

2013 J. Haynes Best Austral. Yarns 39 The Snake Gully version of Dad and Dave was..not as crude and vulgar as the Dad and Dave jokes that we loved as kids.

3. Designating something considered characteristic or reminiscent of Dad and Dave, esp. in being crude, unsophisticated, amateurish, or ineffectual.

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1939 Northern Star (Lismore, New S. Wales) 27 July 6/6 He described the [farming] methods adopted as being of the ‘Dad and Dave’ type.

1952 Townsville (Queensland) Daily Bull. 3 Oct. 1/1 Farming in Australia has passed the Dad and Dave stage.

1993 Sunday Herald Sun (Melbourne) (Nexis) 26 Sept. This is Dad-and-Dave history, chatty, simplistic stuff.

1995 Courier-Mail (Austral.) (Nexis) 25 Aug. The rescue operation turned into a Dad and Dave affair with cars and trucks stuck all over the paddock.

2007 Manly (Austral.) Daily (Nexis) 5 Sept. 27 Overseas investors, particularly in London, consider Australia to have a Dad and Dave stock market.

This is a new entry (OED Third Edition, June 2016; most recently modified version published online March 2022).

单词	dad and dave
释义	Dad and Daven.adj. Brit. /ˌdad (ə)n ˈdeɪv/, U.S. /ˌdæd (ə)n ˈdeɪv/, Australian English /ˌdæd (ə)n ˈdæev/ Inflections: Plural Dads and Daves. Origin: From a proper name, combined with English elements. Etymons: dad n.¹, and conj.¹, proper name Dave. Etymology: < dad n.¹ + and conj.¹ + Dave, pet form of the male forename David (see Davidic adj.), after the names of the father and son characters, Dad and Dave Rudd, featuring in comic short stories about farming life on a rural selection (see free selection n.), written by Australian author ‘Steele Rudd’ (Arthur Hoey Davis (1868–1935)) and based on his father's experience.The first of these stories was printed in The Bulletin (Sydney) on 14 December 1895; a collection On our Selection was published in 1899 and subsequently used as the basis for popular radio, stage, and film adaptations. Australian colloquial (frequently humorous or derogatory). A. n. Farmers or settlers of the type represented by the characters Dad and Dave (see etymology), esp. those working small-scale farms in remote rural areas; such farmers or settlers regarded as uneducated country bumpkins or hicks. Now chiefly historical. ΘΚΠ the world > food and drink > farming > farmer > [noun] > rustic or peasant > ignorant > collectively yokeldom1875 Dad and Dave1914 1914 Sunday Times (Perth, W. Austral.) 4 Jan. 23/3 The Premier concludes that the finances must be balanced, and..Dad and Dave must pay up by means of increased cost for State services. 1926 Gundagai (New S. Wales) Times 27 July 2/4 If those knights of the pen were to visit our rural centres they would learn..that the ‘Dads’ and ‘Daves’ are shrewd, hard headed business men. 1935 Farmer & Settler (New S. Wales) 3 Oct. 16/2 These are to them merely the outback ‘Dads’ and ‘Daves’ of Australian jocularity. 1936 Mirror (Perth, Austral.) 10 Oct. 2/3 In vain I looked for the types I sought—old slop clothes, wheat growing out of their ears, real old Dads and Daves. 1946 Queensland Times 14 Aug. 2/3 Those days of Dad and Dave have gone. The ‘cocky’ is as well dressed and as well educated as city ‘slickers’ are. 2007 T. Henzell Austral. Agric. iv. 161 That was mechanised too (only the Dads and Daves of Australian agriculture continued to pioneer with axe and hoe). B. adj. (attributive). 1. Of, relating to, or designating a person or people resembling Dad and Dave, esp. in being countrified, uneducated, or boorish. ΚΠ 1925 Gundagai (New S. Wales) Independent 20 Apr. The countryman of the ‘Dad and Dave’ type was not there—he has gone out of existence. 1947 Courier-Mail (Brisbane) 26 June 3/4 Most..farmers were ‘prospering businessmen instead of the “Dad and Dave Hicks” that many city dwellers imagined them to be’. 1974 P. Hogan in Austral. Women's Weekly 18 Sept. 7/2 I am not a Dad and Dave type. I am just basic Aussie builder's labourer. 1988 Herald (Melbourne) (Nexis) 25 Mar. (Weekend section) 15 Waggish, lumbering, fond of a beer, a chat and a day out fishing, Les brings a Dad and Dave air to the world of the prominent racing identity. 2001 Advertiser (Austral.) (Nexis) 11 Dec. 18 It doesn't..occur to them that maybe the Dad-and-Dave image of farm boys, the country yokel reputation, is the handicap. 2. Designating a joke featuring Dad and Dave, esp. one portraying them as uneducated country bumpkins or hicks; (also) designating coarse or earthy humour of the type associated with Dad and Dave. ΘΚΠ the mind > emotion > pleasure > laughter > causing laughter > [adjective] > humorous or jesting > other qualities of jests or humour unwormwooded1628 ledger1655 canny1874 heavy-handed1910 off-colour1915 Dad and Dave1935 sick1959 observational1981 1935 Queensland Times 2 Nov. 10/2 The Minister deprecated disparagement of farming and farmers by ‘Dad and Dave’ jokes and cartoons. 1959 Jrnl. Amer. Folklore 72 371 They are at their best in the songs that must be bawled out, like ‘Wallaby Stew’, with its Dad-and-Dave humor. 1978 Canberra Times 24 July 24/1 An old Dad and Dave joke..that goes along the lines, ‘Dad, do you want a book for Christmas?’ ‘No thanks son, I've got one already.’ 1994 Sydney Morning Herald (Nexis) 25 Jan. 24 It's popular art.., not tasteless but a bit coarse. It seems a very Australian, Dad-and-Dave type of humour that is now lost. 2013 J. Haynes Best Austral. Yarns 39 The Snake Gully version of Dad and Dave was..not as crude and vulgar as the Dad and Dave jokes that we loved as kids. 3. Designating something considered characteristic or reminiscent of Dad and Dave, esp. in being crude, unsophisticated, amateurish, or ineffectual. ΚΠ 1939 Northern Star (Lismore, New S. Wales) 27 July 6/6 He described the [farming] methods adopted as being of the ‘Dad and Dave’ type. 1952 Townsville (Queensland) Daily Bull. 3 Oct. 1/1 Farming in Australia has passed the Dad and Dave stage. 1993 Sunday Herald Sun (Melbourne) (Nexis) 26 Sept. This is Dad-and-Dave history, chatty, simplistic stuff. 1995 Courier-Mail (Austral.) (Nexis) 25 Aug. The rescue operation turned into a Dad and Dave affair with cars and trucks stuck all over the paddock. 2007 Manly (Austral.) Daily (Nexis) 5 Sept. 27 Overseas investors, particularly in London, consider Australia to have a Dad and Dave stock market. This is a new entry (OED Third Edition, June 2016; most recently modified version published online March 2022). < n.adj.1914
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